Cancer interventions · Procedure

Pleurodesis

Stop fluid from coming back around your lung.

When fluid keeps building up around the lung, two main options can give lasting relief: talc pleurodesis, which seals the space shut during a hospital stay of a few days, or a small tunneled catheter you drain at home.

  • Hospital stay 2–5 days
  • Chest tube
  • Numbing and sedation
  • For recurring fluid
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Illustration: pleurodesis
Two good options
Seal the space, or drain it at home.
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Dr. Fabio Komlos walks through pleurodesis the way he explains it in clinic, using the same images he uses to plan treatment.

Fabio Komlos, MDInterventional radiologist · 8:23

Thoracentesis Procedure: Everything You Need to Know

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2–5daysUsual hospital stay for talc
~30minTo place a home catheter
7–8in 10Roughly how often talc works
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What problem does pleurodesis treat?

The lung is wrapped in two thin layers, like a balloon inside a plastic bag. Normally only a spoonful of fluid sits between them. When fluid builds up in that space, it is called a pleural effusion. It squeezes the lung and makes you short of breath.

Draining the fluid with a needle, called thoracentesis, gives quick relief. But when the cause is cancer, or sometimes heart or liver disease, the fluid often returns within days or weeks. Repeated needle drains become tiring. Pleurodesis makes the two layers stick together so there is no space left for fluid to collect.

On a chest X-ray, fluid shows as a white area at the bottom of the lung with a curved top edge. After a good drainage, the lung expands and the black, air-filled lung reaches the chest wall again.

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Your two main options

Talc pleurodesisIndwelling pleural catheter
What it isSterile talc powder placed through a chest tube to seal the spaceA soft tube tunneled under the skin that you drain at home
Hospital stayUsually 2–5 daysUsually home the same day
AftercareNone once healedDrain every day or few days, with help from family or a nurse
Works when the lung is stuckNoYes
Main downsidePain and fever for a day or two; may failTube care; small infection risk

Both work well, and large studies show similar improvement in breathing. The catheter means fewer days in the hospital. Over weeks to months, about a third to a half of people with a catheter find that the space seals on its own and the tube can be removed. Talc can also be given through a catheter to speed that up. Learn more on the PleurX catheter and chest PleurX pages.

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Who it helps, and who it may not

Talc pleurodesis may suit you if

  • Fluid keeps coming back after drainage
  • Your breathing got better when the fluid was drained
  • The lung fully re-expands after draining
  • You prefer no tube at home

A home catheter may be better if

  • The lung stays partly collapsed after draining, called a trapped lung
  • You want to avoid a hospital stay
  • Talc has already been tried and failed
  • You are frail and want the least invasive option

If draining the fluid did not help your breathing, neither option is likely to help, and we will look for another cause of breathlessness.

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How to prepare

  • You will usually have had at least one thoracentesis and a recent chest X-ray or CT.
  • Do not eat for several hours beforehand if you will receive sedation. We will give you exact times.
  • Blood thinners may need to be paused. See blood thinners.
  • For talc pleurodesis, pack a bag for a few nights in the hospital.
  • For a home catheter, plan for someone to learn drainage with you.
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What happens during talc pleurodesis

Talc can also be sprayed during a keyhole chest procedure done by a surgeon or lung specialist, called thoracoscopy. Here we describe the bedside method through a chest tube, called talc slurry.

  1. 1
    Placing a chest tube

    With numbing medicine and often light sedation, we use ultrasound to place a small tube between the ribs into the fluid. You feel pressure but should not feel sharp pain.

  2. 2
    Draining and checking

    The fluid drains over hours to a day or two. A chest X-ray confirms that the lung has fully expanded and the two layers are touching.

  3. 3
    Giving the talc

    Sterile talc mixed with saline is passed through the tube, usually after a numbing medicine. The tube is clamped for about an hour so the talc coats the space.

  4. 4
    Tube removal

    The tube is reopened to drain. Once very little fluid comes out, usually in 1–3 days, the tube is removed and you go home.

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Recovery

  1. First 1–2 days
    Chest pain and a low fever are common after talc as the layers become inflamed. That inflammation is what seals them. We give regular pain medicine.
  2. Days 2–5
    The tube comes out once drainage slows. A small dressing covers the site. You go home.
  3. First week at home
    Keep the dressing dry for 48 hours, then shower normally. Avoid heavy lifting for about a week.
  4. 2–4 weeks
    A follow-up chest X-ray checks that the fluid has not returned.
When to call us
Call 650-404-8445 if your breathlessness returns, you have a fever above 101°F after you are home, or the tube site becomes red, swollen or leaks pus. Call 911 for severe shortness of breath, chest pain that is new or crushing, or coughing up blood.
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Results and risks

Talc pleurodesis stops the fluid from returning in roughly 7 to 8 out of 10 people when the lung fully expands. If it fails, a home catheter is usually the next step.

  • Chest pain and fever for a day or two after talc. Common.
  • Failure to seal, especially if the lung does not fully expand.
  • Infection of the pleural space or tube site, uncommon.
  • Collapsed lung or bleeding from tube placement, uncommon.
  • Breathing problems from the talc, rare with the modern, larger-particle talc used today.
  • Home catheter issues: blockage, leaking, or infection, which are usually treatable without removing the tube.
The single most important thing I look at is whether your lung fully re-expands once the fluid is out. If it does, talc has a good chance of solving the problem for good. If it stays trapped, I recommend a home catheter, because talc cannot seal a space that will not close. Either way, my aim is to get you breathing comfortably and out of the hospital quickly.
Fabio Komlos, MD, interventional radiologist · About Dr. Fabio Komlos
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Common questions

Does pleurodesis hurt?
Placing the tube is done with numbing medicine and often sedation. The talc itself causes chest pain for a day or two in many people, which we treat with regular pain medicine.
Is the talc the same as baby powder?
No. Medical talc is sterile, purified and made for this purpose, with particles sized to stay in the chest. It is not a consumer powder.
Which is better, talc or a home catheter?
Both improve breathing about equally in studies. Talc means a hospital stay but no tube afterward. A catheter means little or no hospital time but regular drainage at home. Your lung, your goals and your support at home guide the choice.
Can the fluid come back after pleurodesis?
Yes, in a minority of people. If it does, a home catheter is often the next step.
How long will I be in the hospital?
For talc pleurodesis, usually 2–5 days, until the chest tube drains very little and can be removed. A home pleural catheter is usually placed as an outpatient, and you go home the same day after we teach you how to drain it.
Can I still have chemotherapy?
Yes. Pleurodesis and pleural catheters are usually done alongside cancer treatment. We coordinate timing with your oncologist.
Will insurance cover it?
Pleurodesis and pleural catheters are generally covered when medically needed, including by Medicare. Coverage for home drainage supplies varies, so check with your plan.

Written for patients by the Palo Alto Interventional team. General information only; your own plan depends on your health and imaging.

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